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katayla ([personal profile] katayla) wrote2008-12-04 11:03 am
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Ah, an explanation!


Warning: Stop reading, Grey's Anatomy fans, if you don't want to know the big secret behind Denny's afterlife love affair with Izzie.

I'm serious. Stop.

Okay then, here we go. Turns out Shonda Rhimes wasn't lying when she told me last month that a brain tumor wasn't what was causing Izzie's case of "I see dead people... and have sex with them!" But she was being sneaky.

Last chance to run, spoilerphobes!

According to multiple sources, Izzie's hallucinations are health-related -- and brain-related. And although the specific name of the ailment is being kept in the safe underneath Rhimes' desk, I'm told it's similar to an aneurysm. And every time it flares up, she sees Denny. And sometimes when it really flares up, she shags him. (A Grey's rep could not be reached for comment.)

But wait, there's more! Izzie's aneurysmish disorder was never intended to be fatal. Plans change, but, per an ABC insider, Rhimes didn't cook up this story in order to grant Katherine Heigl's alleged wish to be let go from the show. Rather, the boss wanted to give her employee the thing she allegedly wanted, the thing that eluded her last season: great, Emmy-worthy material.

And say what you want about the story, Heigl has delivered.

For their part, ABC execs remain divided except for on one point: Everyone acknowledges that the plot is asking the audience to take a huge leap. "It's definitely an unorthodox story, but I trust in Shonda," maintains one suit, who says the press will eviscerate the net no matter what they do. "If we interfere, we get blamed for messing with someone's creative vision. If we don't do anything, we get blamed for the backlash. You really can't win."

Another insider says Alphabet execs are getting antsy waiting for the audience to find out about the underlying medical issue fueling Izzie's spectral romance. So antsy, in fact, that they are applying some light pressure on Rhimes to speed up the reveal. Once you know the reason Izzie is seeing Denny, they figure, you'll be much more willing to go along for the ride.

Well, let's put that theory to the test: Now that you know what's behind Izzie's condition, do you feel better? Worse? Indifferent? Sound off below! (Personally, I can get on board with this story now. I think.)

Source.



I don't know. I guess I feel a little better (at least now I know he's not a ghost!), but I still think it was a mistake to bring Denny back at all.

I never saw Izzie/Denny as a big love story, but it was popular in its day, and certainly I have friends who love it, so I mostly kept my peace. But the show won't let me forget it!

Look, of course, Izzie would be upset over Denny's death, and maybe they would've had a real relationship if he had lived, but, as it was, they barely knew each other! All I ever saw was two people who thought each other was hot. When they started talking about feelings and all that, I just never saw it.

It's the same problem I had with Callie/George because it was like she magically showed up, just when he needed someone, and their relationship progressed so quickly that I never saw them actually fall for each other. And maybe that's a flaw in my viewing. I don't know.

I keep thinking about Cristina/Owen in comparison to these stories because (have you noticed?) I love them, and, on surface, they're another one of those couples who meet and fall for each other right away. I think the difference is I can see what they see in each other. Cristina saw him being all bad ass and of course that's a major turn on for her! And Owen, I think, saw those qualities in her, too. And it's progressing slowly, so we've several times seen moments where each of them realizes, "Wow, this person really is pretty amazing." That's the kind of relationship I can get behind.


No, I'm not posting in class! What a cheeky accusation! And my professor just said, "Think of yourself as ducklings. And I'm the mother duck."

[identity profile] nordmaedchen.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
but I still think it was a mistake to bring Denny back at all.

My point exactly! It is soo good to have someone on your flist who shares my opinion. Seriously!

I never saw Izzie/Denny as a big love story, but it was popular in its day, and certainly I have friends who love it, so I mostly kept my peace. But the show won't let me forget it!

THANKS, again! I mean, I can tolerate it if people like him. Even though it is beyond me but oh well. But bringing Denny back and back and back again is kinda pissing me off. You killed him, so just get over it. And no, I still don't like it. No, I don't really care for Denny or JDM. And I don't wanna. The end. Thank you!

And I just couldn't agree more with you on your thoughts. It's just...now it is just pissing me off because she has this care speech about Alex and next ep she is making out with Denny. Oooookay. Even with his health thing...wtf? Wtf, is still my main question here!
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[identity profile] katayla.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
My point exactly! It is soo good to have someone on your flist who shares my opinion. Seriously!

SAME!

Yes! Seriously, I was mostly quiet about not liking Denny back in the day because so many people did that I figured it was so just one of my little quirks. But how can I not talk about it when the show keepings bringing it up??

And, yeah, I was really excited about Izzie/Alex, but I don't even know if I want it to happen now, with this Denny stuff!

[identity profile] nordmaedchen.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't really know why but the moment Denny popped up I was soooo annoyed by him. He bugged me oh so much. Maybe because I was such a big Alex/Izzie back than but also because I found this whole storyline soooo stupid. I mean, they knew each other for like what? 3 weeks? OK, maybe more but still? You have a caring and hot bf and suddenly you are soooo in love with that practically dead guy? Do I even have to point out how much the finale of S2 annoyed me? Not to mention the whole S3 with whiny!Izzie! The fuck?! I don't have a prob with love at first sight, really, maybe it happens outside of tv and books but please, do it at least a bit more subtle and not just...like that!! Especially since you now kinda re-establish Alex/Izzie and come up with his Denny crap again!

[identity profile] katayla.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
For me, it was because of the way he instantly started flirting with her made it seem like it was all about her looks. How many "real" conversations did they have?

Yeah, I was pretty into Alex/Izzie back then, too. Alex, with all his flaws, is much more interesting to me than Denny ever has been.

[identity profile] nordmaedchen.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 10:15 am (UTC)(link)
None. Seriously. Although maybe I am too stupid to see it. *shrug*

Dito! *sigh*
Too bad they are messing it up again. Like Alex didn't go through enough already...
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[identity profile] torigates.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the main reason you have problems with Grey's (and MY biggest problem with the show) is that they're so dead set on the soulmates, love at first sight crap. I just can't get behind that kind of story, because it COMPLETELY takes away any kind of choice. GROSS.

Anyway, maybe that's the problem you're having? Becuase I can totally get behind what you're saying about Izzie and Denny. MAYBE they would have worked out if he lived, but we'll never really know. They didn't know each other well enough.

[identity profile] katayla.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! That's exactly it! So many times they'll have someone show up, and "BOOM! They're in love with someone." There's no story, but we're supposed to be invested in them, right off! It's a trend on the show that really bugs me.

But then they've done a couple of love stories I really loved. Well, mainly both of Cristina's. (Heh. I love her.) They went more slowly and Cristina is so, so not the person who's going to believe in soulmates.

And even if Denny was Izzie's soulmate, it's time to move on! Burke and Cristina had a much deeper relationship, and she is!

[identity profile] torigates.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm the exact same way. My favourite kinds of love stories are usually ones that start off as friends or antagonists, so I really don't get into the love at first sight kind of deal.

I think that's why Christina was always my favourite! She wasn't into that nonsense either! She was always so straightforward and awesome.

You're right about Izzie needing to move on. He's dead! haha. I guess we're not very sympathetic ;)

[identity profile] katayla.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
YES. Those are the best ones. It's the old "show, don't tell" adage. You can't just tell me people are in love and expect me to believe it.

Ha, yeah. I loved her reactions to Burke because that's exactly how I'd behave in a relationship!

Hee. I'm very hardhearted. ;)
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[identity profile] katayla.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was hoping for a medical problem, too.

It's such a shame because I'm loving so much of the rest of the show now. Wish it could all be good.
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[identity profile] katayla.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Oooh, interesting. I actually liked that they continued mentioning her because I didn't expect them to, and I thought the Doctor should mourn her. Not forever, but she deserved that. And I watched it with the knowledge that she was coming back, so I figured they were reminding us of her on purpose. (And I did like her and Doctor/Rose, so, yes, shippy viewpoints always play a role. ;)

Going back to Grey's, I've actually thought they should mention Burke a little more (maybe not now, but last season). He and Cristina nearly got married, and we barely got see her mourn him. With Izzie/Denny, we already saw her deal with his death and (I thought!) move on.

[identity profile] starryeyedmagic.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
I do feel a little better. But...it doesn't change the fact that this is all too bizarre. I used to like Izzie/Denny until they over-did it. It's like when you like a song the first time you hear it but then it gets overplayed and you want it dead.

But yea, I feel like Izzie/Denny only seemed like this great love because Denny was about to die...and then did actually die. I generally hate insta-couples myself.

[identity profile] katayla.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I feel like even if I'd liked Izzie/Denny, I'd be over it by now. There's such a fine line when it comes to these things, and I wish Grey's was better at seeing that. :(

You know, and I think that's part of the reason why it doesn't work anymore. Because (at least for me) having him around all the time now raises that question even more . . . would they really have worked out if he'd lived?

[identity profile] place-to-hide.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. I think it is a big mistake on bringing Denny back at all.

George is at least on to something but Alex doesn't believe him.

[identity profile] katayla.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah! I'm glad George at least is noticing there's something wrong!

[identity profile] place-to-hide.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
Eeps.I just repeated myself about the whole George noticing Izzie being off. Oh well.

And George may try figure out what that is.

[identity profile] katayla.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
Hee! Well, it's an important observation! :)

[identity profile] place-to-hide.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh. It is. because if your not,you miss something.

[identity profile] thelake.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
okay it was obvious. I just don't understand why they would hide something like this and instead said "oh it's not a tumor, it's a love story" and theeen come up with the "well it wasn't exactly a tumor, but yes, it's an aneurysm"...

ORLY?!

it's just simply annoying and not worth of an Emmy, at all.

I used to love Izzie/Denny, but then again it was just that period of time.. Denny had to die, he did and it was amazing. but now they keep making him come back and blablabla.. boring.

[identity profile] katayla.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 07:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah! They should've just made it clear from the start that it was a medical thing. I feel like they've alienated everyone with this story. Denny had his time and place, but it's over now!

[identity profile] stargazr324.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
That excuse doesn't make it better. And it's close enough to what Shonda previously denied to make me wonder if fans hated it so much (and I believe they do) that she decided to use the excuse fans had come up with.

Either way, it's awful. First Rebecca, and now Izzie? (and they managed to have Rebecca go crazy without guest stars).

[identity profile] katayla.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'd really like to hear the truth of what Shonda planned. It does seem like, from what I've read around various blogs, that it's pretty hated. And even the people who like it generally say stuff like "Well, I liked Denny and I liked Denny/Izzie, so I'm glad to have him back." So hardly a ringing endorsement.

A Cristina/Owen icon! Yay! Those two would probably keep me watching through anything.